Revealed: What Biden and Obama said to each other during intense moment at Ethel Kennedy’s funeral

Joe Biden and Barack Obama sparked speculation they may have reached a secret damning verdict on Kamala Harris‘ chances of winning the 2024 election.

The two men were seen having an intense conversation and, according to a lipreader, Biden said ‘She’s not as strong as me’ before Obama replied ‘That’s true.’

Their exchange was captured on video at Ethel Kennedy’s funeral and was decoded by professional lip reader Jeremy Freeman. 

He told DailyMail.com the talk appeared ‘very supportive’ rather than overtly combative.

But there were several sentences that will only add to the intrigue about who exactly the two Democrat presidents were discussing.

It came as influential election forecaster Nate Silver declared the White House race is now in ‘pure tossup territory’ with Harris’s previous advantage over Donald Trump crumbling. Trump is surging ahead in betting markets.

According to the lipreader, early in the conversation Biden said to Obama: ‘She’s not as strong as me.’

Obama replied: ‘I know…that’s true…we have time.’

US President Joe Biden (L) speaks with former president Barack Obama (R) ahead of a memorial service for Ethel Kennedy

Obama then said to Biden: ‘No that’s not on’ – to which Biden responded: ‘Hmm.’

The former president added: ‘I think it’s important that we can have some time together, we’ll take it at value.’ 

Biden appeared to back his predecessor up, saying: ‘Yeah, we’ll get there in time.’

Obama then turned away from the camera and said something else to Biden, to which the president responded: ‘Uh huh.’

The conversation at the funeral was then interrupted by Bill Clinton who looked over at them and gestured toward the front of the cathedral.

The public funeral was the first time Obama and Biden had been seen in public together since the president abandoned his reelection campaign and endorsed Harris.

In July, Obama told his Democrat allies that Biden ought to seriously consider resigning, following the president’s disastrous performance in a debate against Donald Trump. 

Obama reportedly believed Biden’s path to victory had been greatly diminished following the debate, but thought the president needed to make the decision to quit himself. 

Biden said in his resignation speech: ‘I’ve decided the best way forward is to pass the torch to a new generation. It’s the best way to unite our nation. 

‘I know there was a time and a place for long years of experience in public life. There’s also a time and a place for new voices, fresh voices, yes, younger voices. And that time and place is now.’

He immediately endorsed Harris. 

However, Biden was reportedly furious at being forced to resign.  

US President Joe Biden (L), alongside former presidents Barack Obama (C) and Bill Clinton (R) attends a memorial service for Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert F. Kennedy, at the Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle in Washington, DC

‘He’s really p***ed off,’ said a person in touch with his inner circle said. 

The public funeral for the 96-year-old Kennedy matriarch brought together three presidents and included a colorful eulogy by Bill Clinton. 

Biden also crossed paths with former speaker Nancy Pelosi, 84, who delivered her own eulogy. 

During her speech she said it was ‘perfect’ the three presidents spoke – which Obama smiled at but Biden seemed to ignore her.

Dailymail.com previously revealed Pelosi’s brutal phone call to Biden telling him he need to pull out of the race against Trump in July. 

Obama endorsed Kamala Harris after Biden dropped out of the race and was last week on the campaign trail for her.

He stirred controversy for accusing black male voters who don’t support Harris of sexism and demanded they got on board with the Democrats.

Ethel Kennedy was the widow of former U.S. attorney general and U.S. senator Robert F. Kennedy, who was assassinated while seeking the Democratic presidential nomination in 1968. 

She never remarried and went on to raise her 11 children, enduring a host of other family tragedies along the way.

It included separate plane crashes that killed her parents, brother and nephew as well as the untimely deaths of several of her children, grandchildren and a great-grandchild.

She and her husband were devastated by the assassination of his brother, President John F. Kennedy, in Dallas in 1963.

Biden, Obama and Clinton sing during the memorial service for Ethel Kennedy on Wednesday

Biden, a fellow Irish Catholic who has leaned on his faith amid his own losses, including the death of his son Beau, said the Democratic family matriarch was there for him at his time of tragedy. 

He said her husband had been one of his heroes.

‘Ethel was a hero in her own right,’ Biden said.

‘She was a spitfire,’ Obama said. ‘As serious as Ethel was about righting wrongs, she never seemed to take herself too seriously.’